The Former Leak Thread

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The issue of what to do with the leak thread has been on the table for a while. This same issue came up in 2005 with the Yousendit thread. I thought it was well addressed then, but Adam brought up the subject of this thread a few months ago.

The board policy is that you can't discuss trading commercially available media. No links, winks or requests to have shit sent to you. This is especially important for LEAKED material, over which labels tend to go ballistic. Musical discussion/critiques about all music is still fine.

Some of you may remember from the yousendit thread that we allowed links if it was from a non-RIAA source (confirmed with the RIAA radar site). No one bothered to check before posting, and that is what forced the shutdown of the Yousendit thread.

This decision isn't a high handed, morally superior one. It's strictly about liability for the board and Steph. As it stands, unless you're linking to music given away freely on a band's site (or something equally legit) or a legit streaming source like pandora or youtube, it's verboten.

The admins don't have time to police every thread in here, nor do we want to. This subforum is a great resource for finding out about new bands and new music. Just don't take it to the point where the board could get into trouble.
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[WILLIAM!]

we can still mention things having leaked. amirite?
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can we still post riaa safe leaks?

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[Rich]

I can understand where you guys are coming from (ie the people who own/run this site), but I'm not even sure how posting links could get you into much trouble. It's the actual uploading and hosting of the files that's illegal. Plus, do you realise how many blogs and link sites that are out there that are specifically run with the intention of distributing and uploading content, and yet they barley ever get taken down or threatend with punishment (unless its something particulary prominent and popular like oink etc).

Posting a few links here and there in individual threads shouldn't be a problem, to me.

That being said, it really isn't hard to post band's myspaces and the google for links if you're really interested in the band(s).

But like i said, I understand where you're coming from... just my 2 cents.
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[daydream set]

I think Rich is right.

If hosts can be held responsible for what's posted on their website, then Blogspot.com should be toast by now!
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[daydream set]

Also if we can't trade music, then the terrorists (the RIAA) win!
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[Idiot Savant]

Studies that the one like Drew listed are very misleading. Take this quote for example:

[daydream set]

i was mostly foolin' about.

i think that as long as we can do what will asked if we can do, none of this should be a problem.

for free available music, there's little difference between "copy+paste" and "type album+artist+filehost website into google search bar". or just using shareminer.com...
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[daydream set]

Drew or Adam,

Can we link to a website/page that is hosting a file rather than to the file itself?

for example: http://www.taringa.net/posts/musica/4424845/Massive-Attack---Heligoland-(2010).html
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[Idiot Savant]

Not sure if Drew will agree with me on this but I think it's best if we draw the line at links - as you said, people can easily google this stuff for themselves.

I know it may seem idiotic but I think the distinction between discussing that something has leaked, and actively directing people to the download is an important one.
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[ignignokt]

RIAA safe is RIAA safe... db.

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[daydream set]

Drew, do you agree with Adam or is indirect linking okay?
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[multitudious]

If it's not something obvious like a file sharing site link or a direct download link, I don't see how it's our responsibility to police content on every external site linked from the boards.
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[HTMLosers]

I have a question, or idea, or both. Can we upload .txt files containing links to a certain album someone requested/we want to share? I don't see anything illegal/problematic about it, as it's not us uploading or linking directly to said albums.

What I mean is this:

1. I happen to find a link to/discover an album.
2. Copy that link into a .txt file (notpad file).
3. Upload that file.
4. Post a link to the download of that .txt file here (this site/band's thread).
5. Whoever wanted the album downloads that file, reads it, copies the link on their browser of choice, downloads and enjoys free music.

As I said, I doubt there's anything wrong with doing that, we're not uploading albums on our own servers, nor linking directly to them, just compiling them for anyone who wants it, which is basically the same as linking to a site containing that link. In other words, there's no way we can be responsible for that.

Please, don't prove me wrong and say you're fine with this. (:
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Looks pretty good to me / Last.fm

[err]

autolux, books, & big boi all leaked this week. Some great tracks on the books album, but overall a weak album. Autolux was not worth the wait but still good. Big boi is blah.