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 Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:45 am Post subject: Box Set or Civic Tour? |
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If you had to chose between one or the other...
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Box set.
it seems like the civic tour set is going to be a greatest hit set. plus, i had seen Incubus two times on the INNW tour and i'm also seeing them this friday so i guess i am going to see them again when they have a new album out. |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:20 am Post subject: |
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Tour, unless you were actually at the HQ sessions, and want those specific memories. Aside from the vinyls, everything else will surface in due time on the internets. No matter what the format, nothing beats seeing a band live, though.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:39 am Post subject: |
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Such a tough decision.
I would hate to miss a tour stop almost as much as I want those records. $90 a ticket, plus gas across the state and back and food/beer money...pretty close in price.
I hate to say it but it's a lot of money for year old material that I've technically seen and heard a dozen times.
oh and...Linkin Park?
IDK.
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Being that you have seen Incubus multiple times I think box set is the way to go. Normally, I am all about the live show. However, you know each and every standard tour will include MI. This year is a second going of INNW, Civic tour for a month, and whatever lies ahead(you never know). The box set is something that will chew at you if there isn't a second availability.
You are weighing the same options as many others so this is a great debate. It often comes down to finances. I too struggled and still am with the answer. I don't want to miss a tour but it is not a typical season/ circumstance.
In the end, we are going to have many more chances to see Incubus unless this is some epic career finale(which would be gross). Barring that situation, the box set is a likely one chance deal; considering there are 3 million facebook fans with only 3000 available.
And this doesn't even factor in the non fans that purchase boxsets to resale and profit.
I feel your pain.
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| Zinger wrote: | Being that you have seen Incubus multiple times I think box set is the way to go. Normally, I am all about the live show. However, you know each and every standard tour will include MI. This year is a second going of INNW, Civic tour for a month, and whatever lies ahead(you never know). The box set is something that will chew at you if there isn't a second availability.
You are weighing the same options as many others so this is a great debate. It often comes down to finances. I too struggled and still am with the answer. I don't want to miss a tour but it is not a typical season/ circumstance.
In the end, we are going to have many more chances to see Incubus unless this is some epic career finale(which would be gross). Barring that situation, the box set is a likely one chance deal; considering there are 3 million facebook fans and 3000 available. |
(I know this point isn't directed at me; just wanted to voice an opinion)
I understand your point, but as I said earlier, aside from the vinyls, the "get it, or forever regret it" factor isn't as high as it seems at first glance. I'm willing to bet that most, if not all of the video content will surface on the internet in the near future (technically it's already there, though I'm sure some out there will make a big deal out of Blu-Ray quality vs. what's floating around now). Personally, I would take another concert and the memories that will come over this box set without a second thought. Not immediately having the money for that box set was probably a blessing in disguise for me, because after later thought, I'm not stressing too hard on not picking one up. With all that said, to each his own. I'm sure your priorities are different than mine.
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That is why it is a debate and this is a forum. There are multiple ways to look at this indeed. You make a great counter-argument to not obtaining the box set. My rebuttle is that you could say that for any boxset. You can find the mediums in other ways. However, the extras, goodies, surprises are the x-factor.
Playing devil's advocate, you will be able to find a close copycat of nearly every live song you missed from another show.
The reason to obtain a boxset or to go to a show is often sentimental and personal. We try to create memories that stick with us to remind of how badass they were at that moment and whatever life paths we attach to them.
We all took different paths from beginning to now but the fact remains we are fans; all that matters. Some of us bought every album, some of you never payed for a thing. Some of you are able to go to 12 shows a year, some of us fight to attend the one in our backyard. It all boils down to you.
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| Zinger wrote: | That is why it is a debate and this is a forum. There are multiple ways to look at this indeed. You make a great counter-argument to not obtaining the box set. My rebuttle is that you could say that for any boxset. You can find the mediums in other ways. However, the extras, goodies, surprises are the x-factor.
Playing devil's advocate, you will be able to find a close copycat of nearly every live song you missed from another show.
The reason to obtain a boxset or to go to a show is often sentimental and personal. We try to create memories that stick with us to remind of how badass they were at that moment and whatever life paths we attach to them.
We all took different paths from beginning to now but the fact remains we are fans; all that matters. Some of us bought every album, some of you never payed for a thing. Some of you are able to go to 12 shows a year, some of us fight to attend the one in our backyard. It all boils down to you. |
Well said. The biggest thing that tips the scales for me towards going to the concert is that there is a difference between there being recordings of live footage/performances, and actually being there to see it happen. The people who went to the HQ have memories that no box set in the world will bring any of us who didn't have that privilege. Granted, those same people will probably want to relive those memories as best as they can through the box set, but the point I'm trying to make is that going to a concert is an experience that cannot be duplicated/replace by any video or recording down the road.
Another thing you touched on is just how often one gets to see the band play. I'm sure they've hit Atlanta on just about every major tour they've had; however, I personally have only seen them twice ('09/'11), having only started listening to the band in 2006. I still hope to see them play songs like The Warmth, and SSLW (with extended solo), songs that older fans have already "been there, done that". For fans like myself, concerts still mean a lot more than a blu-ray of a live performance. That is as big a factor as almost anything in this discussion/decision.
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The way I see it, they'll always tour but this box set is a limited, exclusive thing. Who knows it they'll ever do something like it again.
And while the content may surface online, I like having the physical artifact. I like collecting.
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The coffee table book won't surface online. As long as the vinyl and cd's do not get sold separately, the box set will be a very worthwhile investment. Hoping they only make 3000 of these and they aren't tempted to make more. It may be worth at least double somewhere down the line.
Even the DVD, we have to consider that the videos will be better quality than what is up on YouTube. |
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I think if you like collecting things, or were at HQ (like me) and don't want to risk not having the tangible artifact of those memories, the Box Set is the way to go. But if you aren't really a collector and are just interested in being able to listen to the HQ stuff once in a while, you'll probably be able to make do with the non-fancy DVD that is still (in theory) coming up (plus, as others have said, the internet.  ). So if you don't really give a crap about most of the stuff on the HQ Box Set and/or are only getting it because you think you 'should' as a 'good' Incubus fan, go for the show. Always the show. First of all, it's a live show, second of all, I think if you are thinking of it soley in terms of supporting the band, ticket sales are a more important indication to the team of the health of fan interest at any given moment.
Besides, Incubus live. You know they do a killer show.
If I had to have made the choice between the HQ Box set and affording a show that was my only chance to see them on this tour/leg, I probably would have picked the show and spent a lot of time crying and gnashing my teeth over not being able to get the Box Set, but ultimately as much as I value being able to relieve my HQ memories (quite a bit, let me tell you), I value being able to make more Incubus-Concert-Memories more. Even if Linkin Park is there.
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I like the idea of collecting, but the vinyl will just literally sit and collect dust for me.
I do hope the other aspects of the collection will be eventually available on their own. If not, that would possibly change things. |
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| BG3eb wrote: | | I like the idea of collecting, but the vinyl will just literally sit and collect dust for me. |
Then we need to find you a record player so you put the vinyl to good use! |
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| You're more than welcomed to purchase one for me lol. |
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Ya I'll probably sell my vinyls as well. I don't really listen to music anywhere other than my car anyway.
If anyone wants first dibs let me know. |
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| anomalagous wrote: | I think if you like collecting things, or were at HQ (like me) and don't want to risk not having the tangible artifact of those memories, the Box Set is the way to go. But if you aren't really a collector and are just interested in being able to listen to the HQ stuff once in a while, you'll probably be able to make do with the non-fancy DVD that is still (in theory) coming up (plus, as others have said, the internet. ). So if you don't really give a crap about most of the stuff on the HQ Box Set and/or are only getting it because you think you 'should' as a 'good' Incubus fan, go for the show. Always the show. First of all, it's a live show, second of all, I think if you are thinking of it soley in terms of supporting the band, ticket sales are a more important indication to the team of the health of fan interest at any given moment.
Besides, Incubus live. You know they do a killer show.
If I had to have made the choice between the HQ Box set and affording a show that was my only chance to see them on this tour/leg, I probably would have picked the show and spent a lot of time crying and gnashing my teeth over not being able to get the Box Set, but ultimately as much as I value being able to relieve my HQ memories (quite a bit, let me tell you), I value being able to make more Incubus-Concert-Memories more. Even if Linkin Park is there. |
Excellent feedback. I wholeheartedly agree with live show memories and experience in the flesh trumping a DVD luxury-oriented medium every time. I have friends that have never seen a live show period of anyone they admire. I have exhausted my educations ability to persuade them they are missing out on a true life experience. Sadly, with no progress. I bring that up because it is similar to someone who really doesnt have the big market chance to see bands on a regular basis; they either see a show very rarely or not at all. My opinion only differs when speaking about the person fans have labled a superfan or whatever you want to call it. The fan with the ability to see multiple shows year in and year out, that is where I think boxset is the way to roll. Especially, on a tour that we can assume will be greatest hits oriented. Not that is a bad thing. History has also told us never assume anything. So all my wordy babble could be mute.
Conclusion: Hit up every relative you can, mow all your neighbors lawns, bus tables one weekend for a buddy, win the lottery, and avoid this dilemma all together 
In all seriousness, live show is the right path. If youve seen Incubus 144 times, you can miss a show; I think.
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if i had a car, i would've saved up for a road trip to go see them again; but i don't, so i got the box set. if incubus is performing anywhere near you (3 hours or less) then see them live. it's always worth it.
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It should be the box set for everyone. Because once you get it you can sell it on and pick up a ticket for the Civic tour and have at least a hundred left over  |
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| edabomb wrote: | | It should be the box set for everyone. Because once you get it you can sell it on and pick up a ticket for the Civic tour and have at least a hundred left over |
Because clearly fans who can't afford to buy it at retail from the actual band/official vendor will totally have the money to buy it at mark-up.
After it ships. In, you know, July. After the Civic Tour tickets are sold out....
Hm. There might be a flaw or two in this plan.
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